Good without God (a personal perspective)

So, the argument has been, can we be "good without God"?

Both of my parents are Christians (my Dad staunchly so, and my Mom is more of a philosophical deist). They got divorced, and both remarried and both got divorced AGAIN. Granted, they did the best they could raising my and my brother, but my mom has been the one who has been the most supportive in my life. (The one who religious beliefs I would describe as "relaxed")

I am an atheist and my husband is agnostic. This Thursday marks our 15th wedding anniversary, but we've been in a committed monogamous relationship, for 20 years (that's half my life, btw).

We don't smoke, have never done illegal drugs of any kind, and I personally do not drink (just personal preference, not a moral decision).

We've both served in the U.S. Military, and I was a volunteer at our local animal shelter for 6 years. We continue to donate to various charities when we can.

We waited 12 years to have a kid, who people always remark upon how kind, thoughtful and polite he is (and he's only 3!).

I am not claiming to be perfect. I lose my temper, I've lied, and have done things I'm not particularly proud of, but who in this world can claim they haven't?

I also don't claim to be the poster child of atheism, but I am definitely claiming that my family adheres to high set of standards and values without any need of a cosmic father figure telling us to do so, "or else".

WARNING! Rantage ahead

About a week ago, I came across the following "Come to God" page: http://www.everystudent.com/features/gettingconnected.html
(I'm sure they'll thank me for the page visits - or perhaps not if they read the rest of this.)

I saw the illustrations and points made in the article throughout my life, and now I feel the burning need to tear this fictitious nonsense to pieces. Perhaps it is simply a cathartic exercise for me. Perhaps I'm just an asshole. Maybe a little of both.

UPDATE: Here's a link to the revised version.

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The "Prove It!" game

So yesterday Seth came up to me with a big smile, and no provocation or context behind the following statement: "Prove it!"

I said, "Ok, prove what?"

He then said "What does 'prove it' mean?"

I thought for a moment on how to a explain this concept to a 3 year old.

I said "'Prove it' means you have to show me that what you say isn't pretend."

After this, there was no follow up question at the time, and we were off doing something else.

Later in the afternoon, I decided to see if he remembered the definition I gave him.

I picked an obvious toy in the playroom that we both could see. I then asked him "Where is the [toy]?"

He glances over at it, then replies with a smirk "In the living room."

I, seeing the opportunity, said "Oh yeah? Prove it."

Seth paused in silence.

I said "Do you remember what 'prove it' means?"


"It means you have to show me that what you said isn't pretend."

He then runs to the living room and runs back, sticking out his empty hands and said "Here it is!"

I laughed and said "I don't think so. Try again."

Seth replied with "D'oh!" and ran around in a circle. He then runs off with the pretend toy and returns saying "I put it in the box in the living room, Mama. See?" (big grin)

There was, in fact, a box in the living room. The toy, however, was still in the playroom sitting there as plain as day.

"Oh, I don't think so. It's right here, see?" I pick up said toy.

He immediately averts his eyes and laughs. "No, no, no, no! It's in the living room!" and runs off again (this time getting distracted by something else).

Seth, at age 3, has just figured out religion. Further, he now knows the difference between religion and science. I think my kid's gonna turn out alright. ;-)